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Old 21-12-2007, 02:20 PM
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Dear Friends,

I want to know about the SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER of EPF. One of our employee as joined us 6 months back and now he wants to withdraw his PF of his previous company and they are asking to get him the SSN number now.

My query relating to this is can we get it done this in any place or not. When i had checked out with the local PF office in Mysore, they had confirmed me that they are yet to start processing this numbers in Mysore. So can we get it done in Mysore only if yes what is process and if not what is the alternate???

Kindly help me out to get this solved.

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Amith R.
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Old 21-12-2007, 03:17 PM
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dear Amit,
SSN NO. is an exercise that is been carried out by most of companies nowadays,this ssn no. is a unique name assigned to an individual to help him out with an unique account no. assigned to him for lifetime,he can work in n no. of companies and need not to produce a pf transfer form.
in your case ,it is not a compulsion to have ssn no. an employee can transfer his fund by using form 13 ,and can use form 10c and 19 to avail fis funds
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Old 21-12-2007, 04:18 PM
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Hi Jayendra,

Thanks for your reply. But i would like to know if he as transfer his amount to his present account can he later withdraw only the amount that he as transferred. I think he cant do this, so how can we withdraw the amount after getting it transferred to his present. Kindly clarify.

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Amith R.
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Old 21-12-2007, 04:26 PM
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Dear Amit,

Once he transfer his amount to your company PF account he will not be able to withdraw his money. So it is better he submits his PF withdrawal forms (Form 10, 19 c) along with SSN form to the previous employer. In such case he would be able to both get the PF withdrawal and SSN number from previous employer.

Suresh Deshpande
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Old 21-12-2007, 04:28 PM
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Hi Suresh,

Thanks a lot for your reply. But the problem is his previous employer is not ready to get him done the SSN and we cant get it done. So what can be done in this case?

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Amith R.
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Old 21-12-2007, 06:28 PM
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Dear Amit,
once he get his amount transfer he can withdraw his amount by giving form 31,(in the form of loan against his pf account).
Thnaks and regards
jayendra Chaturvedi
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Old 22-12-2007, 04:05 PM
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In absence of SSN, no transaction is made by PF Deppt. It has become mandatory to take SSN. Exact date is not known from when it came in force.

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Old 22-12-2007, 04:50 PM
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it is not madndatory as on date as process of obtaining ssn no. is still going on ,and in any case ssn no. cannot prevent you from taking loan at your pf account

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Old 22-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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In Haryana PF office has stopped entertaining any request for fund withdrawal without ssn no and has started sending ssn form along with rejected forms. You may also come across this process sooner or later. There is no escape.

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Old 22-12-2007, 05:28 PM
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SSN NO. is a good thing to have but taking loan on your account does not depend on wheather you have it or not.
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Jayemndra Chaturvedi

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