Dear friends
On hourly basis recruited teachers are eligible for P F?
Regular guest lecturer can get any P F benifits ?
can a school recruite trainy teachers by paying only stifund, not salary?
All thea above 3 catogery teachers can get exempted from P F deduction ?
From India, Jagtial
On hourly basis recruited teachers are eligible for P F?
Regular guest lecturer can get any P F benifits ?
can a school recruite trainy teachers by paying only stifund, not salary?
All thea above 3 catogery teachers can get exempted from P F deduction ?
From India, Jagtial
It seems that your school is run only with trainees and not with qualified teachers. How can parents send their children to your institution?
Anyway, that is not my headache but will be taken care of by the Department of Education which should have given some instructions regarding the staff pattern, the ratio of full time teachers to number of students, etc and violation of these will lead to cancellation of affiliation/ registration. In Colleges and centres of advanced studies, there may be permitted guest faculty but you should not take it for granted that you can have only guests and no permanent faculty! The question of such visiting teachers in core subjects, at least, does not arise in the case of school which is considered to be the foundation for education. Also you should not entertain such kind of arrangements because in school we expect a continuous relationship of students, teachers and parents which cannot be met if you have hourly rated ‘workers’ kind of teachers. Teaching is a noble profession and you should not bring down its dignity by paying the teachers based on hours engaged.
Now coming to labour law enforcement, as far as PF is concerned, if your organisation has at least 20 employees, whether part time or full time, your organisation comes under the purview of Provident Fund and you should cover all employees, including the so called visiting teachers or part time teachers, provided their salary does not exceed Rs 15000 per month. Of course, if you pay more than this, you can exclude them from PF. Otherwise, there is no way to exclude them from PF coverage. Whatever is paid as salary will attract PF.
Coming to a nomenclature of “ Trainee Teachers” and paying “Stipend”, I would say that this is only a designation and the said trainee teacher is not expected to sit in the class room, perhaps separately from the students, just watching what the main teacher teaches, his body language, the manner in which he behaves with students etc, but on the otherhand, will teach the students, take assignments and what all are to be done by other main teachers. Moreover, school is not an industry where you can have an apprentice teacher who can be paid stipend. And if you pay stipend it will have the same meaning of salary only.
Therefore, logically, there is no meaning in designating the teachers as Trainee Teachers which is given only to students undergoing B.Ed practical training, engaging part time teachers or paying them stipend.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
4193Anyway, that is not my headache but will be taken care of by the Department of Education which should have given some instructions regarding the staff pattern, the ratio of full time teachers to number of students, etc and violation of these will lead to cancellation of affiliation/ registration. In Colleges and centres of advanced studies, there may be permitted guest faculty but you should not take it for granted that you can have only guests and no permanent faculty! The question of such visiting teachers in core subjects, at least, does not arise in the case of school which is considered to be the foundation for education. Also you should not entertain such kind of arrangements because in school we expect a continuous relationship of students, teachers and parents which cannot be met if you have hourly rated ‘workers’ kind of teachers. Teaching is a noble profession and you should not bring down its dignity by paying the teachers based on hours engaged.
Now coming to labour law enforcement, as far as PF is concerned, if your organisation has at least 20 employees, whether part time or full time, your organisation comes under the purview of Provident Fund and you should cover all employees, including the so called visiting teachers or part time teachers, provided their salary does not exceed Rs 15000 per month. Of course, if you pay more than this, you can exclude them from PF. Otherwise, there is no way to exclude them from PF coverage. Whatever is paid as salary will attract PF.
Coming to a nomenclature of “ Trainee Teachers” and paying “Stipend”, I would say that this is only a designation and the said trainee teacher is not expected to sit in the class room, perhaps separately from the students, just watching what the main teacher teaches, his body language, the manner in which he behaves with students etc, but on the otherhand, will teach the students, take assignments and what all are to be done by other main teachers. Moreover, school is not an industry where you can have an apprentice teacher who can be paid stipend. And if you pay stipend it will have the same meaning of salary only.
Therefore, logically, there is no meaning in designating the teachers as Trainee Teachers which is given only to students undergoing B.Ed practical training, engaging part time teachers or paying them stipend.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Agreed with Mr. Madhu.T.K. You have to ensure compliance to affiliation rules that are clear e.g. CBSE affiliation rules........... The PF and wages as per applicable law/rules has to be paid......
From India, Chandigarh
From India, Chandigarh
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