Dear All,
I am working in a call centre. There is a high attrition rate. We pay pf and esi and the employee leaves the organisation. Want to know if an employee can be taken for 3 months on salary basis without pf & esi deduction. Please help.
From India, Mumbai
I am working in a call centre. There is a high attrition rate. We pay pf and esi and the employee leaves the organisation. Want to know if an employee can be taken for 3 months on salary basis without pf & esi deduction. Please help.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Manjula,
No, you can't take them on salary basis without Pf or Esic,It is mandatory to employer to pay PF & Esic of each and every employees.Some employer not showing new employees on muster & also not deducting Esic, PF & P-Tax from their wages for two to three months.You can go for same,but this is wrong practice.
From India, Nasik
48No, you can't take them on salary basis without Pf or Esic,It is mandatory to employer to pay PF & Esic of each and every employees.Some employer not showing new employees on muster & also not deducting Esic, PF & P-Tax from their wages for two to three months.You can go for same,but this is wrong practice.
From India, Nasik
If you take them as trainees for three months on payment of stipend, you need not pay P.F contribution but you need to pay ESI contribution. B.saikumar Hr & labour Law advisor. mumbai
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
In fact I want to modify my reply. Since the Standing orders Act is not applicable to you as youa re not an industrial establishment within the meaning of standing orders act, even if you appoint them as trainees, iam afraid, you can escape from liability even under P.F. The better option is to appoint them as apprentices under Apprentices Act 1961(if the Act icovers your establishment) since they are not covered both under P.F Act and ESI Act.
B.Saikumar
Hr & Labour Law advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
B.Saikumar
Hr & Labour Law advisor
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
No you can't take any outside employees as an Apprentice,There are some Government ITI institute from whom you can take the candidates as a Apprentice for the said period and Within seven days from the date a trade apprentice joins an establishment, the employer shall prepare the return in form Apprenticeship – 4 in Schedule-III in duplicate and shall submit one return to the Regional Director or State Apprenticeship Adviser as the case may be, and the other to the Principal or Head of the Institute where Basic Training or Related Instructions shall be imparted.
But most probably Apprentice are taken in manufacturing unit for technical position for giving Basic Training or Practical Training.
From India, Nasik
But most probably Apprentice are taken in manufacturing unit for technical position for giving Basic Training or Practical Training.
From India, Nasik
You can make there Basic salary above 6500 so PF will not be eligible for them & you can make their gross salary above 15,000 p.m. then you need not pay for PF & ESIC
Hope it's of help.
Regards, Derek Gomes
From India, Nagpur
Hope it's of help.
Regards, Derek Gomes
From India, Nagpur
I totally agree with Ganesh Chavan regarding "Apprentice".
Good suggestion "You can make there Basic salary above 6500 so PF will not be eligible for them & you can make their gross salary above 15,000 p.m. then you need not pay for PF & ESIC".But you should pay the Admin Charges of both social Security Acts,
Their is no other Option available.
Thanks.
From India, Thana
Good suggestion "You can make there Basic salary above 6500 so PF will not be eligible for them & you can make their gross salary above 15,000 p.m. then you need not pay for PF & ESIC".But you should pay the Admin Charges of both social Security Acts,
Their is no other Option available.
Thanks.
From India, Thana
Dear Gulanar, In my organization, Probation period for new employee is Six months,but company has right to extend it. It varies from company to Company.
From India, Nasik
From India, Nasik
hi all
1.pls let me know what are the forms we want to submit to pf office for claim
2.The procedure in detail and is there any restrictions to add the employees in pf
3.pls inform me the basic rules in pf
From India, Bangalore
1.pls let me know what are the forms we want to submit to pf office for claim
2.The procedure in detail and is there any restrictions to add the employees in pf
3.pls inform me the basic rules in pf
From India, Bangalore
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