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bala41087@gmail.com Started The Discussion:

Have a great day to everyone...

Can anyone pls tell me, how to submit the Half yearly return of ESI (as we are submitting monthly return online)?

Can we submit Half-yrly return also through online? Is there any possibility?

Pls suggest

msgireesha - Member Since: Feb 2007
can anyone clarify:

1) do we need to obtain CA certificate online return also?
2) ESI website has option for "self certification". Is that the option / way to submit half yearly return submission.?

pls help.

thanks in advance

bala41087@gmail.com - Member Since: Jun 2011
Hi...

THere is no need to obtain CA certificate for ESI online return.

In ESI website, "Click" View RC, download the file (Excel will be good) and do total (Mannual). Then get Employer signatory and submit.

Hope will help u.

Geeta Naidu - Member Since: Feb 2011
Hi, How do we submit half yearly returns online, or is monthly return itself is enough. Kindly suggest us. Thanks in advance. Geeta

minkooo - Member Since: Nov 2007
Dear Geeta/Bala,

The ESI Department although has gone online but the system is not in place as yet for online submission of the Return of Contribution. The online module is still not fully developed and still not all modules and not all functions and not at all places it is fully operational.

First of all, the submission of Return under ESI Scheme is governed by Regulation 26 (1) of the ESI General Regulations 1950 and which is not yet amended so as to include the electronic submission of return acceptable.

The ESI Deptt. have provided a link on the user page about the Return of contribution for specified period but it has its limitations e.g. when an employer have contribution for one month or two months only and the eligible employee left service then the employer will not make any entry into the ESI System but when the period expires and the employer goes for return preparation the web page will return an error that because the Data is not submitted for all month you cannot view/print the Return.

Also, there is no way the Return could be said to be authenticated because once User ID is shared anyone can log in and insert the data without the knowledge of the Authorised Person because it doesn't ask for any additional User level Password access just like Banking system where each user has separate User ID/Pass and system administrator can easily know which transaction has been done by which employee of the Bank. Also, the employer cannot be held liable for any error/wrong submission as the online submission of the information is not supported by any digital signatures so as to make one accountable for any error/wrong submission.

So I'd advise all who read this thread that until suitable amendments are carried out by the ESI Corporation itself there shouldn't be any omission in submission of the ESI Return whenever due. Sometime, the ESI Official working at the Branch Office'll itself refuse to accept the ESI Return on the pretext of system having gone online but they are at fault because of the reasons I have already explained.

Hope this satisfy your query.

Sincerely,

Amit Kumar
Payroll Management &
EPF/ESI Consultants

bala41087@gmail.com - Member Since: Jun 2011
Amit Sir,

But I had started to use ESI monthly contribution online last Mar'11 itself and also submitted halfyearly contribution (Apr - Sep'11) through online. ESI people also accepted.

But there are some limitations as you said. That I'll accept.

For Ex.Suppose an employee is getting 14000 salary in the month of Jun and he has got increment as 17000 in Aug. As per policy till Sep he has to pay the contribution and then we can remove his name from Oct. In the month of Oct he no need to pay the contribution. In mannual submission we will mention that he is OUT OF COVERAGE when we submit the return (Apr - Sep).

But it is not possible in electronic submission. If I give the appropriate code and mention the last date also, it is not accepting. When I ask ESI people they said, put it as resigned.That too we have to show as he resigned 2 months back.

Hope u understand, What I'm trying to say.

I need your suggestion / Opinion upon this.


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Originally Posted by minkooo View Post
Dear Geeta/Bala,

The ESI Department although has gone online but the system is not in place as yet for online submission of the Return of Contribution. The online module is still not fully developed and still not all modules and not all functions and not at all places it is fully operational.

First of all, the submission of Return under ESI Scheme is governed by Regulation 26 (1) of the ESI General Regulations 1950 and which is not yet amended so as to include the electronic submission of return acceptable.

The ESI Deptt. have provided a link on the user page about the Return of contribution for specified period but it has its limitations e.g. when an employer have contribution for one month or two months only and the eligible employee left service then the employer will not make any entry into the ESI System but when the period expires and the employer goes for return preparation the web page will return an error that because the Data is not submitted for all month you cannot view/print the Return.

Also, there is no way the Return could be said to be authenticated because once User ID is shared anyone can log in and insert the data without the knowledge of the Authorised Person because it doesn't ask for any additional User level Password access just like Banking system where each user has separate User ID/Pass and system administrator can easily know which transaction has been done by which employee of the Bank. Also, the employer cannot be held liable for any error/wrong submission as the online submission of the information is not supported by any digital signatures so as to make one accountable for any error/wrong submission.

So I'd advise all who read this thread that until suitable amendments are carried out by the ESI Corporation itself there shouldn't be any omission in submission of the ESI Return whenever due. Sometime, the ESI Official working at the Branch Office'll itself refuse to accept the ESI Return on the pretext of system having gone online but they are at fault because of the reasons I have already explained.

Hope this satisfy your query.

Sincerely,

Amit Kumar
Payroll Management &
EPF/ESI Consultants

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