Dear friends,
I need some help from the HR experts.. hope will get better suggestions/ directions form this site.
I am Krithika Joyappa, working with Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx , Bangalore as an Officer - Corporate Social responsibility.
I provided fake CV to the organization while interview saying I have experience in CSR sector with one of the big company, where in I was working there as labour supervisor but not as CSR profession. I also claimed that I have post graduation in Environment Sciences. But I dont have any.
Now I am very scared of getting this information disclosed to my employees. Even tho Xxxxxx wont sack any employees, but I am scared that I have done a mistake by providing fake work experience and qualification.
Kindly let me know, before company takes any action, how can i resolve the issue by what way?? is it good to apologise request for retaining me??? or wait till I get any kind of intimation then react??
please help
krithika
From India, New Delhi
I need some help from the HR experts.. hope will get better suggestions/ directions form this site.
I am Krithika Joyappa, working with Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx , Bangalore as an Officer - Corporate Social responsibility.
I provided fake CV to the organization while interview saying I have experience in CSR sector with one of the big company, where in I was working there as labour supervisor but not as CSR profession. I also claimed that I have post graduation in Environment Sciences. But I dont have any.
Now I am very scared of getting this information disclosed to my employees. Even tho Xxxxxx wont sack any employees, but I am scared that I have done a mistake by providing fake work experience and qualification.
Kindly let me know, before company takes any action, how can i resolve the issue by what way?? is it good to apologise request for retaining me??? or wait till I get any kind of intimation then react??
please help
krithika
From India, New Delhi
Hello Krittika,
Wonder what made you do what you did in the first place!!??
But you also need to FIRST decide WHY you want to reveal/confess the mistake. Is it because you are now afraid that you will get caught OR is it because you realise you did a mistake & want to correct it--come what may? The action & method of confession may be the same for both reasons, but the way you handle the consequences will be VASTLY DIFFERENT--take it from me.
But whichever reason prompted you to actually decide to admit your fault/mistake, I REALLY CONGRATULATE YOU--not many people have the guts to practice such things--though there will be 'dime-a-dozen' people who will be ever-ready to preach. I DOES TAKE A LOT OF GUTS TO DO IT KRITTIKA. Like Gandhi said, following the path of Truth is not for the weak.
Coming to the choices you have, BEFORE you even think/plan of what & how to do, pl REMEMBER THAT IT PAYS TO BE MENTALLY PREPARED FOR THE WORST-CASE scenario--which in your case could be loss of job or promotion AND loss-of-face in your known circles. If you think it will be too much to bear & want to desist from going further, I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T DROP THE IDEA. In all such things, it's ALWAYS--without exception--better to come-out in the initial stages than later--since the chances of damage to career/reputation or whatever is involved will increase exponentially as time passes--that's law of nature [just imagine the 'what-if-he/she-confessed-earlier' scenarios of Satyam Ramalinga Raju, the ongoing CMG scam & many more of such situations/wrong-doings].
Coming to 'how to implement' part. I would suggest you adopt the written way--a la Gandhi, as described in his "Experiments with Truth" [the episode of his writing a letter to his father for a theft he did during childhood]. Just drop a mail/letter with CC: to whoever you think needs to know--including your boss of course--mentioning BRIEFLY what you did & what prompted you do it [could be financial/family reasons or anything--but give the actual reasons]. Be as brief as possible, but at the same time cover all the aspects of the mistake. And send the e-mail to at least 2/3 concerned/relevant people--to ensure multiplicity in the response process.
The main reason why I am suggesting the 'written way' is this: quite often in such psychologically-stressing situations, one begins wanting to say something & ends-up saying quite something else or maybe in a different way than intended.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IN YOUR MAIL/LETTER IS: DON'T ASK TO BE RETAINED OR PARDONED/EXCUSED. Leave the decision of what to do to your bosses. Just mention that you are sorry for what you did under the situation and whatever is decided is OK/acceptable with you--and pl ensure you FEEL it that way internally & not just say it for them [sort of the difference between hearing & listening--one is response from the mouth/head & the other from the heart]. This is what I meant when I mentioned in the beginning--be mentally prepared for the worst-case scenario. And if you believe in HIM, have Faith that HE watches & guides your every step. At the end-of-the-day, who knows? Maybe you could be in for a very pleasant surprise!!!???
Let me know if you have any queries/doubts. ALL THE BEST.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
1637Wonder what made you do what you did in the first place!!??
But you also need to FIRST decide WHY you want to reveal/confess the mistake. Is it because you are now afraid that you will get caught OR is it because you realise you did a mistake & want to correct it--come what may? The action & method of confession may be the same for both reasons, but the way you handle the consequences will be VASTLY DIFFERENT--take it from me.
But whichever reason prompted you to actually decide to admit your fault/mistake, I REALLY CONGRATULATE YOU--not many people have the guts to practice such things--though there will be 'dime-a-dozen' people who will be ever-ready to preach. I DOES TAKE A LOT OF GUTS TO DO IT KRITTIKA. Like Gandhi said, following the path of Truth is not for the weak.
Coming to the choices you have, BEFORE you even think/plan of what & how to do, pl REMEMBER THAT IT PAYS TO BE MENTALLY PREPARED FOR THE WORST-CASE scenario--which in your case could be loss of job or promotion AND loss-of-face in your known circles. If you think it will be too much to bear & want to desist from going further, I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T DROP THE IDEA. In all such things, it's ALWAYS--without exception--better to come-out in the initial stages than later--since the chances of damage to career/reputation or whatever is involved will increase exponentially as time passes--that's law of nature [just imagine the 'what-if-he/she-confessed-earlier' scenarios of Satyam Ramalinga Raju, the ongoing CMG scam & many more of such situations/wrong-doings].
Coming to 'how to implement' part. I would suggest you adopt the written way--a la Gandhi, as described in his "Experiments with Truth" [the episode of his writing a letter to his father for a theft he did during childhood]. Just drop a mail/letter with CC: to whoever you think needs to know--including your boss of course--mentioning BRIEFLY what you did & what prompted you do it [could be financial/family reasons or anything--but give the actual reasons]. Be as brief as possible, but at the same time cover all the aspects of the mistake. And send the e-mail to at least 2/3 concerned/relevant people--to ensure multiplicity in the response process.
The main reason why I am suggesting the 'written way' is this: quite often in such psychologically-stressing situations, one begins wanting to say something & ends-up saying quite something else or maybe in a different way than intended.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IN YOUR MAIL/LETTER IS: DON'T ASK TO BE RETAINED OR PARDONED/EXCUSED. Leave the decision of what to do to your bosses. Just mention that you are sorry for what you did under the situation and whatever is decided is OK/acceptable with you--and pl ensure you FEEL it that way internally & not just say it for them [sort of the difference between hearing & listening--one is response from the mouth/head & the other from the heart]. This is what I meant when I mentioned in the beginning--be mentally prepared for the worst-case scenario. And if you believe in HIM, have Faith that HE watches & guides your every step. At the end-of-the-day, who knows? Maybe you could be in for a very pleasant surprise!!!???
Let me know if you have any queries/doubts. ALL THE BEST.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear TS,
Thanks lot for your support, it is not that i want to confess my mistakes.. it is to retain my job. It may look very unusual, but i need this job..
I was thinking the person who helped me lot in getting this job was very rude with me initially to make me to learn the processes of quickly as he refered me, but I took it in otherway and did mistake by complaining against him as I thought he is tourturing me and dont want me to grow on my own. but in-turn I abused him. After few months he left the organization becouse of my behaviour.
Today I understand why he was after me to learn the processes quickly, today after 2 years, therez no one in the company who is interested to help me. And I too dont have any voice to ask.. and still lacking to learn..
Recently i heard from one of my HR friend that the guy has informed (after quitting the company) our HR head that I gave fake informtion to get the job and asked them to cross varify with my previous organization and the college where i studied.
I am thankful to the company that, they wont sack the employees.. but scared if they take any action which spoil my face towards my coleagues and friends then I dont know what I will do..
Please suggest, what would be the best thing i can do??
I dont know, I feel very bad.. i tried contacting that guy, but he is unavailable dropped many e-mails but no replies..
please help
krithika
From India, New Delhi
Thanks lot for your support, it is not that i want to confess my mistakes.. it is to retain my job. It may look very unusual, but i need this job..
I was thinking the person who helped me lot in getting this job was very rude with me initially to make me to learn the processes of quickly as he refered me, but I took it in otherway and did mistake by complaining against him as I thought he is tourturing me and dont want me to grow on my own. but in-turn I abused him. After few months he left the organization becouse of my behaviour.
Today I understand why he was after me to learn the processes quickly, today after 2 years, therez no one in the company who is interested to help me. And I too dont have any voice to ask.. and still lacking to learn..
Recently i heard from one of my HR friend that the guy has informed (after quitting the company) our HR head that I gave fake informtion to get the job and asked them to cross varify with my previous organization and the college where i studied.
I am thankful to the company that, they wont sack the employees.. but scared if they take any action which spoil my face towards my coleagues and friends then I dont know what I will do..
Please suggest, what would be the best thing i can do??
I dont know, I feel very bad.. i tried contacting that guy, but he is unavailable dropped many e-mails but no replies..
please help
krithika
From India, New Delhi
Dear krithika_joyappa
I have masked the name of the company, for confidentiality purposes.
It seems you made two mistakes : furnished false information and "did mistake by complaining against him as I thought he is tourturing me and dont want me to grow on my own. but in-turn I abused him. After few months he left the organization becouse of my behaviour."
You realize your mistakes. How you can make amends - it is your call.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
I have masked the name of the company, for confidentiality purposes.
It seems you made two mistakes : furnished false information and "did mistake by complaining against him as I thought he is tourturing me and dont want me to grow on my own. but in-turn I abused him. After few months he left the organization becouse of my behaviour."
You realize your mistakes. How you can make amends - it is your call.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Hello Krithika,
Raj Kumar said it right & with brevity.
Whether right or wrong & for whatever reasons, you made the mistakes.
Like they say: in nature, there are no right or wrong answers--ONLY consequences. Suggest learn to face the consequences of your actions. Frankly, I think you still haven't realised your mistakes--like Raj Kumar mentioned. The advice you are asking now is more driven by the fear of getting caught rather than a wholehearted attempt to correct your mistakes.
And what I mentioned on 22nd posting still holds good.
All I can say now is to repeat Raj Kumar's advice.
rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Raj Kumar said it right & with brevity.
Whether right or wrong & for whatever reasons, you made the mistakes.
Like they say: in nature, there are no right or wrong answers--ONLY consequences. Suggest learn to face the consequences of your actions. Frankly, I think you still haven't realised your mistakes--like Raj Kumar mentioned. The advice you are asking now is more driven by the fear of getting caught rather than a wholehearted attempt to correct your mistakes.
And what I mentioned on 22nd posting still holds good.
All I can say now is to repeat Raj Kumar's advice.
rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear
From what you say it is better for you to resign .Suppose they ask you the reason then orally you can tell them that you are owning moral responsibility for your mis-demeanor.If they still insist you to stay then stay put otherwise you will have to find anew job.One learns from your mistakes.At least you can request them to give you a good reference.
rajanassociates
From India, Bangalore
From what you say it is better for you to resign .Suppose they ask you the reason then orally you can tell them that you are owning moral responsibility for your mis-demeanor.If they still insist you to stay then stay put otherwise you will have to find anew job.One learns from your mistakes.At least you can request them to give you a good reference.
rajanassociates
From India, Bangalore
I entirely agree with Raj Kumar. But while considering the plight of an agonised soul like Kritika we have to weigh the probabilities vis-a-vis practicalities. In the posts there are two extremes: one suggested by Rajanassociates and the other by "borntosin". The Gandhian advice of TS has obviously not been heeded for which he reiterates to follow it. While moderating Raj Kumar Hansdah has realised the incalcitrant undertone and left the action to Kritika. In the circumstances we feel there are the three optionsspelt out in the posts: keeping in mind the nature of the employer she follows the advice of TS with the courage to face the probable raising of eye brows. Alternately follow the advice of rajassociates by arranging another employment. The third option is going ahead as if nothing has happened. But for this she has to muster the courage to face whatever comes. Practically for a girl this calls for extra boldness to cover the behaviour as she feels guity inside. Out of the three the advice of TS is more ethical. Now she has to assess the relation of the employers towards her after disclosure of the incidents as she states. It would be better to take the HR into confidence and find out the reactions. Then follow the advice as required by circumstances. In any case it is a tricky situation requring to hear her inner voice.
From India, Sambalpur
From India, Sambalpur
Dear all thank you for your valuable suggestions... I would be confessing the same with our HR and will be searching for the new job simultaneously.... Thanks again krithika
From India, New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
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