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p_hr01@yahoo.com Started The Discussion:

Hi everyone!!

I hv noticed tht in different companies, the depts are different..

Please clearify my doubt what is the professional differences between HR. Personnel, IR & Amin.

Thank You.
Regards.
Priya

TARAQ - Member Since: May 2007
Hi Priya

i also face that quary but both are same.
But the Most reputed name is HR.personnel dept. is like tipicaly old word. now HR means that " NO HUMAN NO HUMAN RESOURCES "

The Best is HR.Its feel us Proud


Rishee

TARAQ - Member Since: May 2007
Hi Priya

i also face that quary but both are same.
But the Most reputed name is HR.personnel dept. is like tipicaly old word. now HR means that " NO HUMAN NO HUMAN RESOURCES "

The Best is HR.Its feel us Proud


Rishee

TARAQ - Member Since: May 2007
Hi Priya

i also face that quary but both are same.
But the Most reputed name is HR.personnel dept. is like tipicaly old word. now HR means that " NO HUMAN NO HUMAN RESOURCES "

The Best is HR.Its feel us Proud


Rishee

lvijayhr - Member Since: May 2007
Hello Priya,
Human resource management is a modern term for what has traditionally been referred as presonal management or administration.Personal Management is as such considered as much narrower and more clerically oriented than HRM.

Industrial Relations(IR) is an area where a person deals with labour laws,statutory compliances,- Dealing Labour & Industrial cases Labour court, I.T. & High court.- Implementation of V.R.S. & other outsourcing scheme.- Liaison with labour department at local, Regional & State level,Welfare & social security scheme etc.

Administartion is a department which takes care of the various facilities that has to be provided to employes for smooth functioning of their duties and responsibilities viz travelling facilities,hotel arrangements for guests or clients or employees ,purchases of office equipment like systems,tables,canteen,coffee meachines,couriers etc.


Vijay

p_hr01@yahoo.com - Member Since: May 2007
Thanx Vijay!! But when a manager writes HR-personnel, does it means tht he has to look after all clearical duties or he looks after HR generalist? Priya

parashar.ap - Member Since: Apr 2007
First of all I would like to correct vijay...it is not "personal management" it is "personnel management"....as far as IR & ADMIN is concerned Vijay is correct....thnx to him for that....but as far as personnel mng. is concerned I would like to say it is not much different than HRM as traditional function such as recruitment, appraisal, training & development etc. are there in both of them, PM is the term Which precede HRM, it is just like old wine in new bottle, some of the leading institute even today have courses titled PM e.g. PGD in PM & IR (XLRI), MA IN PM &IR (TISS), PGD IN PM (XISS) ALL these are among the best in the field of HR, so even I feel that there is no difference between HR & PM other than "nomenclature "

Varanasi - Member Since: Dec 2006
Hi Folks,

I accept with Vijay and the other friend who didn't mention his name.

*Now the latest terminology is comming up in the HR field by name, HCM (Human Capital Mgt.) and HPM(Human Potential Mgt.).

*These are all the revised terms of Personnel Mgt (Managing People at work) in the market according to the latest market trend with the revised resposibilities in the HR field to manage the people in a better way. :)

Regards,

Kalyan.

sheela26 - Member Since: May 2007
hi

the terminology has changed from personnel management to Human Resource Management.

As far as PM is concerned it deals with recruitment, salary processing and F&F. But now adays with HRM the HR has been given more responsibility which includes the Recruitment, induction, training, Salary processing, appraisals, staff welfare etc.,

In future we might come across few more new terminology!!!!!!!

sheela

mashamsi - Member Since: Aug 2006
dear priya

the personnel is actually the traditional role i.e. monitoring the attendance and punctuality of a person, keeping the records of leaves, managing the payroll etc. In HR, u r not only confined to the above roles but also to get the right people for the right job, and develop the policies and create an environment to retain and motivate them and get the best out of them. also, performance appraisal should be goal based (to be set at the start of the year after the mutual consent of the boss & the subordinate), career and succession planning etc.

Administration is the day to day operational work, like some repair and maintenance, arranging office supplies and stationery, managing company transport (if any) managing the outsourced activities (e.g security and janitorial services etc.)

Industrial relations is concerned wiht the organizations having unionized workers / work environment (i.e. dealing with labor union workers, office bearers, negotiating and bargaining the demands made by the workers)

I hope that you may have a clearer idea of all the above.

Best regards

Azeem



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