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  #1  
07-11-2009, 05:35 PM
Join Date: Jun 2008
submission of fake experience certificate - shall we proceed disciplinary proceedings
one of the employee has been working in our organisation since 15 years. While joining in the Company, he has submitted fake experience certificate and nobody is not pointed out till today and giving increments every year and he did not have any lapses in conduct during 15 years service. while verifying the personal file , i find the said problem.
Hence I request HR executives pl give me suggestion whethere I can proceed disciplinary proceedings against him or drop the same .
  #2  
08-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Join Date: Nov 2009
hi kr

At the time of appointment , every employee is required to sign on the appointment terms and conditions wherein one of the conditions would be if at any point of time, the credentials submitted by the employee found untrue, the employer would take appropriate disciplinary action including termination of services. In the instant case, the employee is liable for disciplinary action including termination after finding truth. But keeping in view his 15 years of unblemished service, the management, as a special case, may take a lenient view but be careful that it should not act as precedent to other employees. However, since it is the discretion of the management, can warn the employee.
  #3  
08-11-2009, 06:25 PM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CHENNAI
Well it is an 15 years old issue and now the employee from his 15 years of loyal service to the company might have changed a lot in his attitude. Things do happen, when you dont get job by hardwork and see favoritism, biased recruitments all over, you are also frustrated and literally go on to fake resumes, educational qualifications and certificates. One more question suppose a similar candidate has 0 knowledge before 15 years and is recruited on the VERBAL recommendation or favoritism of some HR , VP etc, and if you find this after 15 years what can you do. Because as per law both things are illegal but only for the first case you have documents, for the second case where favoritism has been done, it is just verbal thing which happened before 15 years at that time using influence of HR they might even have faked the test process and told the candidate the correct answers to the test questions and so on.

It does not make sense to dig up a 15 year old issue, the faking even the employee might have forgotten and now he must have thought of retiring from your company, because a person who has worked for 15 years in a organisation might not think of leaving it in future, so obviously he will be surely retiring from your organisation and if he is been performing well for the past 15 years then there is also no need to even inform the employee of his fake exp certificate as this might disturb the employee and affect his performance.
Kindly forget this issue.

This case requires expertise in humanity and if you dont have any experience in this, better leave it, it is not a proof and judge case.
  #4  
09-11-2009, 11:16 AM
Join Date: Aug 2009
you should drop this case and ask him to submit a new certificate if he has if not ask him to apply for one. We should not spoil ones career and life, and if he is local resident then he might trouble you in you personal life.
  #5  
09-11-2009, 11:18 AM
Join Date: Aug 2009
you should drop this case and ask him to submit a new certificate if he has if not ask him to apply for one. We should not spoil ones career and life, and if he is local resident then he might trouble you in your personal life.
  #6  
09-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Join Date: Jul 2009
Stop digging dead bodies, it is not fair, are sure never had lie to anyone? just ignore it unless he is harmful to the organization / incompetent.
  #7  
09-11-2009, 12:32 PM
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: India
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Hi

I am sure this would demoralise the person, specially if he has given 15 years of his career to the organization.

But at the same time I personally feel that this should be dealt with... in soft but a firm manner and have one-on-one with the employee and should be communicated to him that the management is aware but not taking a severe step looking at the clean tenure that he has had

This will give him a lesson for his life.... that wrong things can be caught anytime and by anyone, which can make life difficult. One just cannot get away

Cordially,
preet

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Originally Posted by krlrao1959 View Post
one of the employee has been working in our organisation since 15 years. While joining in the Company, he has submitted fake experience certificate and nobody is not pointed out till today and giving increments every year and he did not have any lapses in conduct during 15 years service. while verifying the personal file , i find the said problem.
Hence I request HR executives pl give me suggestion whethere I can proceed disciplinary proceedings against him or drop the same .
  #8  
09-11-2009, 01:47 PM
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chennai
You can give him a chance since he has been loyal to the orgnization for 15 years that too with an unblemished record. There is no point in asking him for certificates now as some of the documents of his previous may / may not be there. May be you can ask for his original educational certificates take a photocopy and close the issue. May be you can ask the senior HR to speak to him and close it.
  #9  
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Join Date: Nov 2009
HI,
At the outset i feel that this shouldnot be taken any further,The person had been with your organisation for about 15yrs,cld have joined even before you did.All these years he had been a good resource and ur statement clearly indicates that he hasnt any negative record other than this fake slary slip.what i would auggest is have a positive approach to this ,make him aware that this is been notified and encourahge him to deilver more.motivation at this point of time will help him deiver more
  #10  
09-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chennai
I agree with you Preeti.........this was what that run in my mind as soon as i read this issue.



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Originally Posted by Preeti View Post
Hi

I am sure this would demoralise the person, specially if he has given 15 years of his career to the organization.

But at the same time I personally feel that this should be dealt with... in soft but a firm manner and have one-on-one with the employee and should be communicated to him that the management is aware but not taking a severe step looking at the clean tenure that he has had

This will give him a lesson for his life.... that wrong things can be caught anytime and by anyone, which can make life difficult. One just cannot get away

Cordially,
preet

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