Dr. Jogeshwar mahanta
174

Dear all,
I had posted the following message in another thread.
"Dear all,
Which of the followings describe the motivation level of citehr the most?
1.Mungerilal ki haseen sapne.
2.Hatheli men aam
3.Never come out of cocoon
4.Never come down to earth
regards"
Two answers were on No.2 and 1 was on No.4.
Now I think motivation level of citehr needs further discussion. The points of discussion are:
1. Do you agree with above answers?
2.If not, then what is your observation.
3.Can one move from empowerment to constructive empowerment with this level of motivation?
4.Can one move from performance to peak performance with this level of motivation?
5. Is man power monitoring possible both at macro and micro level with this level of motivation?
The points are presented for discussion.
regards

From India, Delhi
bhattathiri
Motivation is an important factor. It has been presumed for many years that satisfying lower order needs of workers - adequate food, clothing and shelter, etc. are key factors in motivation. However, it is a common experience that the dissatisfaction of the clerk and of the Director is identical - only their scales and composition vary. It should be true that once the lower-order needs are more than satisfied, the Director should have little problem in optimizing his contribution to the organization and society. But more often than not, it does not happen like that. ("The eagle soars high but keeps its eyes firmly fixed on the dead animal below.") On the contrary, a lowly paid schoolteacher, or a self-employed artisan, may well demonstrate higher levels of self-actualization despite poorer satisfaction of their lower-order needs.

This situation is explained by the theory of self-transcendence propounded in the Gita. Self-transcendence involves renouncing egoism, putting others before oneself, emphasizing team work, dignity, co-operation, harmony and trust – and, indeed potentially sacrificing lower needs for higher goals, the opposite of Maslow.

"Work must be done with detachment." It is the ego that spoils work and the ego is the centerpiece of most theories of motivation. We need not merely a theory of motivation but a theory of inspiration.

From India, Kochi
Dr. Jogeshwar mahanta
174

We have glorified motivation. We are glorifying motivation and we will continue to glorify it. But how the motivation of citehr is described? It is hatheli men aam. What do we achieve by this level of motivation?
Constructive empowerment?
Peak performance?
Monitoring man power both at micro and macro level?
Probably no hope.Right?
regards

From India, Delhi
Dr. Jogeshwar mahanta
174

Thank you dear SIL.
1.Mungerilal is a fictitious character who is fond of daydreaming only. Mungerilal ki haseen(beautiful) sapne(dreams) is a proverbial expression.
2.Hatheli men aam
Hatheli=palm
men=on
aam=mango
This is also a proverbial expression which literally means instantly growing mango on the palm out of nothing.
regards

From India, Delhi
SIL
Thank you dear SIL.
1.Mungerilal is a fictitious character who is fond of daydreaming only. Mungerilal ki haseen(beautiful) sapne(dreams) is a proverbial expression.
2.Hatheli men aam
Hatheli=palm
men=on
aam=mango
This is also a proverbial expression which literally means instantly growing mango on the palm out of nothing.
Thanks for your response sir. :lol:

From India, Madras
sureshjingran
Hi Doctor, Motivation is such a complex phenomenon, the more you think of it, the more crazy you could get! I have often pondered over this issue myself. To rate motivation of citehr, we have to work on individuals. Temporarily we can abandon this haath mein aam stuff and look more closely at the personality orientations of motivations. I would suggest that we rate people as
1.Krish-superman
2.Munnabhai MBBS
3.Muqaddar ka sikkander
4.Kaidi no 4
5.Aawara
After systematic desensitising of the above data, we can go in for further processing of motivational processes such as 'jaane bhi do yaar', 'golmaal' etc...
take care
sj


bala1
20

Hi Drji,
Hmmm, few questions:
1. I didn't understand the question of yours - motivation level of Citehr?
2. Are you asking what motivates common people like us to contribute to Citehr?
3. Or is it something else?
Bala

From India, Madras
Dr. Jogeshwar mahanta
174

Bala ji,
My heart dances with joy by having you.
In fact, this thread is an offshoot from another thread as you can see from the opening of this thread. The thread is on intuition development. There I saw that some who were very enthusiastic disappeared in due course. So to make them alert I had put this question. Then I just wanted to know the motivation level in general. I hope this clears the missing link.
The next message I am posting here is motivation through the ages. Trust, you will enjoy it. regards

From India, Delhi
Dr. Jogeshwar mahanta
174

Thank you Balaji,

Most of us are here to gain something. I say "most of us" because exceptionally some are hre to cause damage to others. I am focusing on the most.

A:Seeking ability to gain, the vedic period.

Here is a vedic mantra to illustrate.

Let us have breath in our nostrils,

voice in our mouths,

Sight in our eyes,

Hair that has not turned gray,

Teeth that are not discoloured and

Much trength in our arms.

Let all our organs remain unimpaired and our souls in peace and harmony.

the Gayatri mantra is for ability to judge.

B:Just to gain, post vedic era.

The illustration is Maha mrityunjay manta.

Om trambyakam......(flattery)

Urbarookamiba bandhanat mrutyurmukhiyo mamrutat(gain).

C.Surrender to gain, Geeta

Sarbadharman parityajya mamekam saranam braja

D:achieving Transformation-Patanjali Yoga sutra

one needs shraddha(interest), veerya(energy}, smriti(memory), prajna(intuition and wisdom) and samadhi to gain.

There is great individual differences and please see where you are.

regards

From India, Delhi
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