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  #101  
14-07-2009, 12:58 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chandigarh
Thanks all,

I got the replies in Yes as well as No.

But I want to clarify that we have no clause regarding the Probation in our Appointment letter.t e

I conveyed the same thing to the managing director to whom I am directly reporing and he says that he donot want get entangled in notice periods.

So , no notice period should be given. Is that rite??

Vineet Saini
  #102  
15-07-2009, 06:20 PM
Join Date: Apr 2008
We should follow the law of natural justice. It is not ethical to fire an employee in a short notice even in probation period. It is rightly said that the concerned employee must have given adequate opportunity to improve his performance. If the concerned employee went to labour court then it will be difficult for you prove the non performance. Hence it is suggested that the concerned employee must have given at least one chance for improvement.

Ravi varshney
  #103  
15-07-2009, 09:41 PM
Join Date: Jun 2009
it depends on the company.
  #104  
15-07-2009, 09:44 PM
Join Date: Jun 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadhav-368 View Post
it depends on the company.
Askyour probationer somethings whihc he cannot do or did then when you get oppournity then only you can fire him but you have to give a written notice of the same as the principle of natural Justice reuirement.
  #105  
17-07-2009, 07:22 AM
Join Date: Jul 2009
Mr Pankhuri is right, give the employee the second chance, before take a final decision, try to get a 360 feedback from HR side, normally when the boss&subordinate is not good, the boss intents to provide a wrong presentation

Discuss with the employee, put him/her on observation, if possible change him/her to different line manager/superivisor , observe their performance, as well the HR should have good observation during the same period

IT will create good HR practice as well the confidence among other associates about the company

Provide atleast a month time and fire, it is not only about a employee career but also the confidence it is going to create among rest of the employees

Regards

R Sudhakar

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Originally Posted by tpankhuri View Post
Hi Vineet

To fire a non productive employee it is not the correct way to ask him / her to leave in one day. He/She can counter you back that he had got no feedbacks for his non performance.

Please follow these steps and then fire:-

1) Issue a warning letter to an employee stating his / her non performance. Along with the relevant data supporting ur statement.

2) Put the employee on Performance improvement plan for 15 days.

3) Give definite targets to be achieved in those days.

4) Get a clause in Performance improvement plan that failing to achieve the targets can lead to disciplinary actions or even to termination.

5) Employee >= Target - Give him second chance in your company as he/she is genuinely trying to work

6) Employee < Target - Ask him/her to leave the organization.
  #106  
17-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chandigarh
Thanks for your valuable responses.

Vineet Saini
  #107  
22-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Every body wants a secure life/employment and this is not fare practice to remove employee's employment with immediate effect. When you sellect somebody you should see all the attribute of person and then sellect and give him employment in trainee six month then prob six months and then if you found him suitable then confirm only. In training or in probation there is no need of notice pay.

Think also on yourself the same sitiuation - how you will handle.
  #108  
23-07-2009, 11:41 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Bangalore
Hi,
Before venturing into the aspect of firing a person without notice during probation, one should judge the period of probation lapsed.
The law is very clear that if a person has put in continuously 6 months of service his services can be terminated with one month prior notice or one month pay in lieu of notice.
So if a person on probation is fired before the completion of 6 months period of service, he need not be given notice.
Think it over.
Regards
  #109  
23-07-2009, 01:45 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chandigarh
Hi All,

I have made some changes to our policy now where in we have:

15 days training - termination without notice.
3 months probation - termination with 15 days notice after giving 15 days improvement period.
Confirmed employee - one month notice.

If some changes need to be made. Please suggest.

Thanks,
Vineet Saini
  #110  
07-08-2009, 06:28 PM
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Egypt
If i want to be a member in a marketing team, i must start to work as medical representative to reach the marketing.
Try to tell me the right steps.
Thank you in advance.

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