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Old 21-10-2008, 01:11 PM
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Morale of the story... MY opinion...

There are winners- who pretend to be losers (Jet airways- Had they decided on a straight forward approach on the salary cut, the employees would have never agreed for the cut. Jet first gave them a glimpse of the worst case scenario and implemented the salary cut)
There are losers- who think they are winners- The jet employees eventually agreed to a salary cut. Seen employees happy after a salary cut ever???

Opportunist- Where there is water there is life. Political parties, heads and many more all gathered to gain.

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Old 21-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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Hi Everybody
Pls note there are two angles to this problem. one is the employer side and the other is employees side...what we have talked is just the employee side that it was not good ......Looking from a Management perspective that when business is going down the hill u need to reduce your cost many companies resort to such moves...whether good or bad has to be thought of in totality with rationalisation rather than being emmotional.

Employee side yes certainly a bad move by the organisation...

But think instead of penalising the entire co of 10,000 employees Co might thought to get relieved of 1800 .....which they found much easier....

Its not the employee or employer case its the bubble which has bursted in the aviation sector as happened in case of IT in 2001. employees were hired based on growth assumption where as growth didnt touch that figure.......
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Old 21-10-2008, 04:02 PM
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Dear All,

As an Hr person , Jet airways should think about feture prediction, while talking about cost cutting why dont we think about current and feture preduction ,even though giving employment will not gives us ROI. But we want to think about CSR. termaniting 1500 people at a time make an chance for politician to play a game to creat brand image. nothing else rather then termaniting them jet airways might call all the people and inform the situation and slowely they might given vrs,and terminaton on miss conduct ,they might given time for another co oppurunity.

atleast now we want to think both management and employees.
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Old 21-10-2008, 04:03 PM
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Dear All,

As an Hr person , Jet airways should think about feture prediction, while talking about cost cutting why dont we think about current and feture preduction ,even though giving employment will not gives us ROI. But we want to think about CSR. termaniting 1500 people at a time make an chance for politician to play a game to creat brand image. nothing else rather then termaniting them jet airways might call all the people and inform the situation and slowely they might given vrs,and terminaton on miss conduct ,they might given time for another co oppurunity.

atleast now we want to think both management and employees.
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Old 21-10-2008, 04:43 PM
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The entire episode shows that there was no communication between any levels, why blame the HR. Mr Goyal himself didn't know that the employees were sacked, how would the HR dept know business was faltering if they were still hiring[in fact a few days before the incident].HR themselves were not up to date in dealing with the employee's appointment orders etc. To top it all Mr. Goyal finds out[on that day only] that all the fired employees were in his daughter's age group therefore he hires them back the next day........poor HR they would have been on their toes hiring/ firing/ reloading...........to top it all Mr. Raj Thackeray gets the credit.........there are to many moral stories/ morals in the story in this case
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Old 21-10-2008, 05:05 PM
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Rita, Good post. but i would suggest you to spell check before u post it. Coz, u r designation is not reflected in your language.

Also at this point of time I like to share a short story...

It is a myth story happening in South India.

we all know South India is famous for the temples and idols and there are lots of devotees in different temples across the country.

Once, one such devotee visited a temple.
When he was climbing the stairs he noted the Stones used to build the steps.
When he reached the God's Idol and saw he noted the stone used to sculpt the Idol.

He asked the Priest..

Devotee: Sir, I have a doubt..
Priest: Tell me sir..
Devotee: Is the quality of the stone used to build the steps is same as the quality of the stone used to sculpt the idol?
Priest: Yes sir both are same quality.
Devotee: Then why we are worshiping the Idol, while we are stamping on the steps, which is of same quality.
Priest: There is a moral behind it. The stone used for steps was having an attitude of not being flexible and was not prepared to overcome Pain. But the stone used to sculpt the idol had a great attitude and was prepared to over come the pain and sufferings during the time of sculpting.. that is how it got a beautiful structure.

Now, from this story.. we have a msg to learn...

When we come across any kind of hurts or pain.. we have to accept it and over come it in a very wise manner. If we are not prepared to overcome the pain but changing our attitude... then we will be stamped and stepped by others.. and no growth will be there..

SO ppl who lost their jobs, lost their money, etc.. etc.. even though its a hurt to heart.. we need to handle it in a modest way.

The best way to get away from troubles is to pass through it.

All the best once again for u r new job hunts.

Everything happens for Good.

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Old 21-10-2008, 05:58 PM
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Jet Airways have taken action and reversed it under pressure. HR personnel need not worry. It is Management folly.
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Old 21-10-2008, 06:06 PM
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. Hence if such a step had become necessary, it should have been done in batches of 20-50 people with some time gap.

Hey Abhay,

I think the things are coming up in the same way. Almost all are Probationairs.

Its easy to terminate employees on the basis of non performance rather than terminating without no reason.

well KF has taken a step to decrement salaries.. employees will get frustu know. wil think of quiting then.

Good Strategy..!!

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Old 21-10-2008, 08:38 PM
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Default Jet Layoff!! and Inevitable Situation.

The situation demands an important change in the mindset of an Employed Person in general. Rather than blaming the industry, the company or the management, it would be of importance if we, as employees start thinking from the point perspective of an Employer - or let me say an Enterprenuer. I believe you would agree that today's scenarios has its share of Abrupt Changes...may be not that sweet. So survival, the employees if they could think like employers in their work..they could anticipate the looming danger much before the Tailored Notices from the HR Dept, which nowadays has been of much redicule, enabling the employees to be prepared for the worst.
The HR could be more proactive and Operation Oriented to gauge the scenario much in advance and Capture the Grounds of a Stabilised Exit, in case of worst scenarios rather than just being rubber stamos of a disillusioned Operation / Management.
This calls for a change in the Basic HR functions carried out by the conventional HR Dept of the corporate world today.
Remember, if the going gets tough, the tougher gets going!!!
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Old 22-10-2008, 03:05 AM
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The company was entirely wrong in treating human resource as equivalent of any other commodity in wholesale termination. If not, it smells of conspiracy of gaining an undue advantage from undisclosed quarters weilding power.

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