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‘HR must be different’

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Bangalore: HR is not just about hiring and firing anymore. It's increasingly becoming an integral part of the core business, as the people factor has a direct reflection on the market competitiveness of enterprises.
"Globalisation, technology developments, and changing customer and employee needs have thrown open a new breed of challenges for HR managers, thereby impacting a sea change in the entire fabric of conventional HR," said Dave Ulrich, educator and management guru and faculty at Michigan Ross School of Business.
"To respond to increased demands, HR professionals must redefine and improve performance and enhance their competencies,'' Ulrich said. He saw the impact of economic globalisation to be more pronounced in countries like India and China, the world's largest labour markets.
Addressing a large audience of HR professionals from across verticals at a Times Ascent organised event on 'HR Value Proposition: New competencies for the HR professional' here on Friday, Ulrich said, "Today, the job of HR is to create value, and proper communication with employees is critical for this value creation.''
Unlike conventional practices, HR should allow people to work on projects that are demanding, unpredictable and ambiguous, as many enjoy such challenges. Again, all HR strategies have to be directly linked to the core business of the company and its customers' interests.
HR policies should encourage clear employee succession plans, conducive work environment and a sense of ownership.
"Employees should be taught 'spiritual' discipline, and HR should inculcate modesty, integrity, forgiveness, humility, mercy, mutual respect and charity, qualities that are key in a work environment," Ulrich said.
Earlier, speaking at the seminar, Arun Arora of the Times Group said, "Multi-tasking is bringing innovation and also compulsion to demolish the boundary walls between departments. This puts a lot of pressure on HR professionals who must stand above and add value to the organisation.''
The event was sponsored by Pune-based Indira Group of Institutes, SAP and Zydus.


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Anonymous
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HR EXCELLENCE AWARDS— 2007



CEO of the Year

Mukesh Aghi, Universitas 21 Global

Lifetime Achievement

Harish Mehta, CMD, Onward Technologies

HR Professional of the Year

G P Rao, senior VP (HR), Reliance Industries

Outstanding Contribution to HR industry

R Gopalakrishnan, executive director, Tata Sons

HR Leadership Awards

Wipro CFO Suresh Senapaty, Sunil Alagh, chairman, Tamara Capital Advisors, Sujit Bakshi, president (corporate affairs) Tech Mahindra and Balaji Ganesh, MD of Polari


hi all
nice to see this thread. am posting a few posts from the previous year's thread.

Trade unions associated with the Communist Party of India (CPI)
  • <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">All India Trade Union Congress (AITUC): Gurundas Dasgupta is president; this was the first trade union in India. Started in 1920 <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: blue; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">AIYF All India Youth Federation
  • AISF All India Students federation
Trade Unions associated with The Communist Party of India Marxist (CPI-M)
  • CITU Center for Indian Trade Unions ( 1970/membership of 2.8mn) M K Pandhe (President)
  • DYFI democratic youth federation of India
Trade Unions Associated with the Indian National Congress
1. INTUC: Indian National Trade Union Congress (1947/ 6 mn) - Sanjeeva Reddy president]

Famous Persons associated with trade unions:
1. EMS Namboodaripad (First CM of kerala)
2. AK Gopalan/ Susheela Gopalan (Trade union leader)
3. Jyoti Basu
4. Reddy (Associated with Telengana struggle)
5. Charu Mazumdar (Naxalbari incident)

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Anonymous
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Capitalism : Economic system in which means of production is privately owned and operated for profit.

Socialism: System where distribution of wealth is controlled by community. The community owns the means of production.

Communism: Seeks socialist state and wants to establish equality in distribution of wealth etc.

Marxism: Marx said that the transition from capitalistic to socialistic society will take time and there will be a transition time where there will be revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.
From wikipedia :
According to Marxism, capitalism is a system based on the exploitation of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie (the "capitalists", who own and control the means of production). This exploitation takes place as follows: the workers, who own no means of production of their own, must seek jobs in order to live. They get hired by a capitalist and work for him, producing some sort of goods or services. These goods or services then become the property of the capitalist, who sells them and gets a certain amount of money in exchange. One part of the wealth produced is used to pay the workers' wages, while the other part (surplus value) is split between the capitalist's private takings (profit), and the money used to pay rent, buy supplies and renew the forces of production. Thus the capitalist can earn money (profit) from the work of his employees without actually doing any work, or in excess of his own work. Marxists argue that new wealth is created through work; therefore, if someone gains wealth that he did not work for, then someone else works and does not receive the full wealth created by his work. In other words, that "someone else" is exploited. Thus, Marxists argue that capitalists make a profit by exploiting workers.

Leninism :
Lenin argued that the proletariat can only achieve a successful revolutionary consciousness through the efforts of a Communist Party comprised of full-time professional revolutionaries. Lenin further believed that such a party could only achieve its aims through a form of disciplined organization known as democratic centralism, wherein Communist Party officials are elected democratically, but once they are elected, all party members must abide by their decisions.
Leninism holds that capitalism can only be overthrown by revolutionary means; that is, any attempts to reform capitalism from within, such as Fabianism (advocates attaining socialism via reforms rather than violence) and non-revolutionary forms of democratic socialism, are doomed to fail.
The goal of a Leninist party is to orchestrate the overthrow of the existing government by force and seize power on behalf of the proletariat, and then implement a dictatorship of the proletariat. The party must then use the powers of government to educate the proletariat, so as to remove the various modes of false consciousness the bourgeois have instilled in them in order to make them more docile and easier to exploit economically, such as religion and nationalism.
The dictatorship of the proletariat is theoretically to be governed by a decentralized system of proletarian direct democracy, in which workers hold political power through local councils known as soviets

Communist govts in India: Kerala, West Bengal...??

Communist/Left Govts in the world: Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Peoples republic of China, Chile, Russia. Anything more?
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Listed below are few links that i found cud be of use to everybody here -

Ministers(Cabinet + State) - LIST OF COUNCIL OF MINISTERS <link updated to site home> ( Search On Cite | Search On Google )

Trade Unions in India - List of trade unions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SEZsin India - SEZ India

More on SEZs(around the World) - Special Economic Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nandigram SEZ Controversy - Nandigram SEZ controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Naxalites - Naxalite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Armed Forces(Special Powers Act) - Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , Armed Forces Special Powers Act: A study in National Security tyranny (From the SAHRDC Resource Centre)

Clemenceau(Its an old topic, but one that attracted a lot of attention) - Clemenceau (R 9[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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From India, Ahmadabad
Anonymous
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Ram,
we are just 2 months in the business of learning HR,so i pretty much know very little. but we can definitely have an idea of what HR does in any firm and why an applicant at this particular juncture ( say no exp/2 + / 4+ years of work ex) wants to pursue the course...

to start with HR is like a doctor of a hospital , who has to balance the management on one side and the employees on the other.. just as the doctor has to tread carefully along his diagnosis of the patient while not scaring the patient..

thoughts can follow on this


hi all
chalo lets pour our thoughts on a very common topic of the day : executive compensation : views and counterviews

why should the prime minister take the CII meeting as a platform to trumpet the last few fangs of the socialist leanings available in the government policies ??? Though the splurge in the salaries is not for everyone, the massess affected by such inequitable distribution is not known clearly (don't know the stats [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]) , the issue can still be studied across sectors and still leave for the board room to decide if the CEO needs a higher salary than the present figures .

As the primary motive of any enterprise is to make a profit, the garnering of the same should be allowed in India, though with caution and not at the cost of deprivation of others (non exec employees ) in the organisation.

hi all,

thanks for the initiative taken by starting this thread. TISS procedure is such an enigma for all the applicants that it really needs some information before actually appearing in the exam and the rest of the TISS selection procedure.

Well, I did apply for TISS for 2006-08 session, and it as that year when the written exams started. Earlier also there was a written test but it used to happen in TISS campus.
I was selected for the interiew and GD, and my whole experience after GD & PI was good.
GD was as usual a collection of 10-12 people sitting together and sharing their thoughts, and PI was as usual a panel of three profs sitting and observing a candidate.

My whole interpretation of TISS procedure was that TISS actually wants those guys who are inclined towards the HR course not for high salaries, but for the actual love of the Human Resource. You need to prove it then and there that your motive is not to earn high salaries in some IT company instead you love this course so much that you can even take up a job which is only for quenching your thirst to make human resources contribute more towards this society.

I personally noticed that TISS panel was not very much interested in getting IT guys into the college and they were even pointing it out at the salary column during the interview (you will have to fill up your salary in the interview form, in case you are a professional), and they always said that - why do you want to get into a generalist role after working in a focussed filed like technology and at the same time you will not get this kind of salary (dont know why they said that).

After a few days the results were out...and I was not selected........but then I felt as if I was not totally prepared for the TISS interview........and thats why wanted to appear for TISS only after some more experience in the corporate field. And hence I didn't appear for the TISS last year.

And now after a good break and some more experience I am thinking of applying for TISS again.

Few points I would like to bring to your notice before the TISS forms are out for the coming academic session......

1. TISS gives a hell lot of importance of things you do in terms of charity and as a part of the NGO activities. So if its possible for you get involved into such a thing, then please devote some time to such activities......it will help you a lot.

2. In case you are an IT person.....then be ready with the answers of such questons - Why do you want to leave the technology field? Why do you think HR course is best for you after working in technology? Why made you think that HR course is best for you? and finally a shocker........Do you really think that a HR person contributes into business? TISS panel doesn't believe that an HR person can actually contribute into business (during the interview they really argue hard against HR roles at work places.....they have a long list of negativities for business created by the HR people).

3. They will try to make a match between the Bio-Graphy you will write in the application form and the person sitting in front of the panel. In fact, If I remember well , there was a person who was constantly reading my bio-graphy and always listening to what all answers I was giving and was also jotting down some one-liners every now and then.

4. Know anything and everything about your workplace/company....your native city......the reasons behind things which you have done in your life till dats.....

The above points are just the pointers I can provide you from my failed experience........these points will take a lot of time to prepare, and you actually have enough time to prepare for all these points.

At last, I will suggest that getting into TISS actually needs a TISS-type personality......and getting in touch with a TISS-type-personlity (current and ex-student) will help you the most. Also, reading things related to HR will actually help you..........seniors can really be helpful in getting the names of such books......

Hope my post is helpful to everyone...........

Thanks & Regards

Sarsij

From India, Ahmadabad
Anonymous
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However, I would like to clear certain points out here
  • TISS doesn't have any special inclination towards IT or the non IT guys, just to bring to your attention we have a good mix of IT and Non IT guys (Non IT includes sectors like Manufacturing, Education, NGOs, Research and Development(Government), shipping, Media, Financial consultancies etc.) IT and non IT guys are evenly balanced when it comes to the numbers.
  • TISS might give importance to things you do in terms of charity and as a part of the NGO activities when you apply to the Masters in Social Work(MSW) course. And if you have some expereince with an NGO/Charity, you may be asked why not MSW instead of HRM&LR? It doesn't mean that one should not do charity or be involved with an NGO. I mean to say its your approach in the interview which makes all the difference.
  • "Why are you leaving your sector and coming to HR" :- I think this question is not confined to people in IT sector but to others as well.
  • About the argument- HR people and their contribution to Business and the list of negatives about HR is just to check your composure and focuss towards HR. Infact what i have learnt till date is that even a person from the lowest rung of the organisation contributes to the business in his own ways. And HR is much bigger a function.

From India, Ahmadabad
Anonymous
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executive compensation : views and counterviews

you can find the full text of the speech by our PM here : <link outdated-removed>

you can find the editorial in hindu on the same by here : The Hindu : Opinion / Leader Page Articles : CEOs and the wealth of notions

I will post my comments on this soon.

Ram


HR Functions do suck......specially if your job is to prepare the List of Holidays, take exit interviews, give away the HR letters for getting a bank account opened or simply giving out some letters.

But the point is that every MBA job function will have something or the other of similar nature, or for that every sector has something similar in its plate. So why blame only HR jobs????

I am engineering graduate and I am working in core technology, but then also there are things like testing and documentation which actually turn me off.....and on those occasions I simple feel like cursing the organization and a big kick on my seniors face. But thats also a part of my life and the domain I am working for. And I guess the case is same everywhere, whatever domain you are working.

Take for example Sales Guys......they have to actually meet their targets by hook or crook...they have to almost beg the customers on most of the occasions. And I have interacted with many of the marketing guys working at reputed banks........and trust me, they really get the kickings every now and then. I personally have shouted at few of the customers relations managers.......do you think its a great idea to get into this line? If you go by the negatives the probably you would end up doing nothing. This world will never become an ideal place to live and let others live, instead it will always be a place for those who believe in survival for the fittest. So dont see the negatives, instead try to gain the skill which will make you fight those negatives and sail ahead.

Well, I also have one of my senior working at Hewitt and his experience is really great.......now he has become a consultants there and he deals with mergers and acquisitions and he is damn satisfied.

We all have our own perspectives, but we should not generalize it......afterall some people might derive huge satisfaction by helping people at the workplace after being an HR.......dont you think so.

Please try to derive some interest in your work....may be your statement will change, and you will let us know about the great things of this job profile.

Hey am not generalising anything abt HR.
Some HR functions are good. But some of them tend to be very monotonous & dont require any amount of intellectual input! [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
Infact attrition in Hewitt Is very high (I contibuted to that as well [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG]) & scores of employee engagement prove that 2. Neverthless Hewitt is the best in the HR World & has some excellent profiles for Post grads in HR[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image003.gif[/IMG]

So the whole point that I AM trying to put Is that the most crucial decision to take b4 targetting TISS should be some introspection into your interests & to see if HR is in line with that or not... Coz TISS offers an M.A. in HR & not a general MBA degree or diploma!

Every job has a level of monotony but to sustain urself & remain satisfied you must have interest in that... [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image004.gif[/IMG]

Sugandha

True!
But I guess almost everyone in India who plans for MBA in general dreams for Investment Banking Career in his preparation days... [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image003.gif[/IMG]later he settles down with the fact that the competition is too high and even getting the admission would be more than enough.... [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/testing/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image003.gif[/IMG]
Thats the situation when one is thinking about exams like CAT JMET and other national level exams.
But thinking about some focussed institutes like XLRI and TISS almost everyone is there to get a seat in the HR course, and I guess everyone is mentally prepared to see himself as a HR soon.

Although I agree that it actually needs some level of preparation in knowing before-hand about the roles and responsibilities of HR people before getting into such a course. But before that I actually encourage these thoughts - Do you actually need an MBA degree??? Or is it just the glamour associated with MBA which is attracting you?

Anyway, thanks for your post.........and lets exclude Hewitt from this discussion.....doesn't look professional enough to discuss the negative points of some organization in public.

Thanks again!


From India, Ahmadabad
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