03-07-2008, 06:32 PM
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Hi Roopesh
Read U R Case it is really amazing. You can call him for Counselling & say that we will not take this matter to Police, It is better you ask him to search the New Job. As there might be One Month Notice period.
Tell Him, we are taking soft corner for U R Family. Only |
03-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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Hi,
See first of all, this type of person cant do any thing good for the organisation in future also. But to get rid of him, i appreciate the measures suggested by both Sam and Roopa. Lets start with this measures. Out come will come automatically and may be we get some new avenues to overcome the situation. Informing local police, involving family members & close friends, taking legal suggestions etc. are good steps to deal with this type of situation. Every measure from company side should be documented. After all, life is precious and the more, life(s) related with that person.
rksarkar |
04-07-2008, 09:33 AM
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Hi,
In this instance one probobale acation is that you could ask him to resign and hence not terminate him.
Termination is a life long impacting action which will be visible in all records exxpecially when background screening is done.
Tell him that we are not terminating you, tell him to make a graceful exit sans the notice period.
If this love approach doesnt work then its time to act tough!
You could report this to the Indian Labour commission first and get thier notice. Then with the help of lawyers and the judiciary expedite his termination
Regards,
Kenneth
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04-07-2008, 10:11 AM
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good settlement of samvedan |
04-07-2008, 11:17 AM
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Hi I Agree with Rupa, you may make evidence ready inform police, others in the office, mgmt , union reps if any... and his family members too.also involve some media people, those ppl need not live on this earth like this, there are no legal complications involved for you once u secure evidence.. and dont allow people like these to balck mail you.
Do remember always , those who do emotional balckmailing, one you give them elbow room , they will stab you in the future for sure, at the most if u think he is valuable as a human being at the least , hand him over to a pshyciatrist, never get involved in his treatment once his family members are informed!
all the best!
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04-07-2008, 01:25 PM
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Dear Roopesh,
All the ideas given by our members are exellent
As per my suggestion,
1. formal information to local police station
2. information to their family member - if married to his wife, if not to their parents by arranging a formal meeting at your office
3. in this case, consider you organisation size also, because if it is smaller one you can retain him, because as a humanitarian approach, person who makes mistake and
identified, will not repeat it again and also will try to work trustfully to his boss
and in the other case, if the organisation is larger size, as Mr. samvedan told, you have to deal in tricky way, like, you need to make him shy everyday whenever he comes to office by highlighting the matter to his other collegues informally and this will make him to quit the job automatically even less than a month...
Regards,
Kumar |
04-07-2008, 01:30 PM
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hi members
Like this situation handling, why can't us post some incidents like this,
i think, this will give some good ideas and exposures to the readers and new
joinees to understand and act during such cases
Regards,
Kumar  |
04-07-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by swastik73  Dear Roopesh,
When a person commits suicide, and he writes somebody's name holding the person responsible, the person so named comes under abettment to commit suicide, but that only becomes an allegation. It needs to be proved in a court of law. With so many Farmers committing suicide have you ever seen any money lender,official or minister getting arrested?? So, a person just cannot put anybody's name, there must be a relation in which the accused had created wrongful threat perception, coercion or intimidation that the person had to end his life. The term wrongful should be there.
So, it is always advisable to go in for full disciplinary proceedings (Domestic Enquiry) before terminatinmg an employee. Once that is done then you are absolutely safe from law. Informing Police station will not protect you, because if the Company's name is there it will have to appear in court, and in court if it is proved that the Company had terminated without proper domestic enquiry or had made the person forced to resign, then it will be real trouble.
Regards,
Swastik | I just went through all your suggestions . Pardon me saying i felt as if some brainstroming session is going on for CAT aspirants(yet to do MBA). The only HR answer comes from SWASTIK. Keep it up buddy. Dr.Pradeep Mohapatra  |
04-07-2008, 04:45 PM
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Hi Roopesh
First speak with him and telling that this is a sitaution and we cannot go ahead for further befor you do all this speak with there family members that he has done all fraud in our company that is the reason we are removing him.Do mae involvement with your higher authority people so that agian you will not be in the loop.
Another alternative you can do is that when you are speaking connect the call to the police department with parel to your manager so that they can lesson to his voice with this i think your problem can be sloved.
One most thing which you need to learn in your life is that donot take the things very very serious first thing understand what is the problem and what are the solutions for that so that best results can be out.
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04-07-2008, 05:41 PM
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Dear Roopesh,
You r facing such a situation which any HR deptt. could face in future. But don't be so sad or tensionised bcz this department mostly use to face the legal situations. Ya...as per my opinion this department has made also for face such situation where company use to face legal trials and hr people use to face such situations tactfully.
The person who has done fraud and in the first month of his joining, he could not be a proper employee of any organisation.
Now, the solution is :--
(1) Immediately complain in written to your nearest police station and mention that he is threatening for sucide when we should terminate him. In your complain mention that police action is required. It is duty of police to enquire the case of fraud and they will take the proper action. As per the norms any person who use to be under custody of police and use to be challaned. the hr deptt. could suspend him and when he should be proofed accused then termination could be done.
In the above situation either that fraud person use to sucide then your company should not be responsible.
(2) If you don't want to complain the case in police station then send him the registered legal notice that what fraud has found against him and enquire the case with him for 2-3 sittings but it is must that every enquiry detail (question and answer) must be signed by him also along with enquiry head, that in future if any mis-happening accurs who must have proof to show in court. After the enquiry, when u find him accused of fraud then send the termination letter with registered post but try to collect the acknowledgement immediately from the post office for future.
I hope that such people doesn't do anything after the termination because they use to threaten only.
I hope that the above suggetion will help u. But, consult to your management before adopting it.
RAJ
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