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Old 28-06-2008, 02:25 PM
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Dear Madhu,

Thanks for the reply first but if a employer had not taken it as certified standing order and he had mentioned in the appointment letter that a probationer should have to give one month notice before leaving.

Whether it is right or wrong.

Sorry, Madhu this is my nature, if there is little bit confusion i always prefer to talk or discuss or refer books.

Plz reply.

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Ranjeet
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Old 28-06-2008, 02:28 PM
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Dear Friend i must be precise on this issue because it is company policy that whether you should serve notice period or not.We should always read offer letter and appointment letter very carefully before accepting and signing it. Though it is ethically not correct.

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Dear All,

Whether an employee who has been in the probation period is legally bind to serve a one month notice to the employer?

As per my Knowledge there is legal binding only for confirmed employee as per standing order in Industrial Employment Act, 1946.

My company is taking one month notice with every -one and they know that it is wrong according to the principle of Natural and social justice but the Management is ready to fight in the labour court.

Plz suggest.

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Ranjeet
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Old 28-06-2008, 03:43 PM
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If the company has no certified Standing Orders and appointment order accepted by the employee shows that a probationer should give notice, then he should give notice. Still an employer cannot go behind an employee whether temporary or permanent to recover any notice pay.

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Dear akhtar,

Thanks for the reply.

Regards
Ranjeet
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Old 28-06-2008, 05:09 PM
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Dear Madhu,

How the employer cannot go behind the employee for notice pay.Plz Clarify.

Even i know where employer giving Full and Final Settlement in Negative Figures.

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Ranjeet
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Old 28-06-2008, 05:12 PM
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Thanks Mr.Madhu.

It is really an eye-opener

regards,
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Default Terminationg some shop floor emplyees(Workers)

As we are manufacturing industry and our orderpostion os not that much sound and we want to terninate some workers who are not performing well and they permanent.

Can we terminate them by giving one month notice pay?

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The classification of employees as 'temporary', 'probationer', 'trainee' is an internal matter. Therefore, such classification should be there in the certified standing orders of the company. Otherwise one who works in a particular job which is of permanent nature should be regarded as permanent worker. Only those engaing works of irregular nature, such as white washing the building, servicing of a machinery which the employee on roll cannot do etc are temporary nature. If the standing order or the appointment order is silent about clause of probation, one who works for 240 days in the preceding year is expected to be served notice of termination or notice pay. Similarly, when he leaves also, he is expected to serve notice or pay notice pay.

Probation may be interpreted as a period during which the employee needs to be supervised and it doesnot mean that he is not a permanent employee. Since he is doing a regular work of the company and his leaving the organisation will lead to a temporary stopage of work, he can be asked to give notice. But at the same time, being a probationer he cannot be thrown out without notice. If his service is found unsatisfactory, he shall be served notice in advance sating that his service would be terminated on a specific date.

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Old 30-06-2008, 11:12 AM
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hI flokes i have one query , that is workmen who crossed 10000/- per month he is not ewligible for ESIC facilities . fine. but is it duty of the management compulsarly cover them under mediclaim policy. and is it statutory. if yes pl let me know the act, section and clause.
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Old 30-06-2008, 12:01 PM
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Dear Ranjith,

Only the confirmed employees need to serve 1 mnth Notice period (or as per the appointment letter); probationary period the employer can terminate or ask to leave by giving 1 week & vice versa. Hence what ever be the case it cant be 1 month for Probationary period employee.

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Old 30-06-2008, 12:45 PM
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Dear Cirus,

Thanks for the reply.

Plz go through the posting of Madhu sir.

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Ranjeet

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